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- From: peterbe@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Peter Beck)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.audio
- Subject: Re: Paula chip and Amiga audio
- Date: 15 Feb 1996 23:52:09 GMT
- Organization: University of Sussex
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- Thomas Weeks (tweeks@millenium.texas.net) has been known to utter the following:
- : Zsolt Szabo (robodude@deanwong.rad.jhu.edu) wrote:
- : : In article <judas.0ho5@tomtec.abg.sub.org>,
- : : Th.Huber <judas@tomtec.abg.sub.org> wrote:
-
- : : Sorry, but this is complete nonsense. Ever heard of the term signal to
- : : noise ratio? An ideal 16 bit signal has an SNR of 96dB; by comparison,
- : : an 8 bit sample has 48dB SNR. This has little to do with the
-
- : No... what YOU are referring to is called the DYNAMIC RANGE...
- : You get approximatly 6dB of dynamic range per added bit of resolution.
-
- : Signal to noise ratio is simply a power ratio of the signal to the
- : background noise... This has to do with the input signal its self... now
- : if you are suggesting that the error gained by quantization error has
- : something to do with SNR, I suppose that you could argue that.. but
- : quantization error is smoothed out via the LFP (low pass filter) and you
- : are simply left with an actual type of slight amplitude/phase error... I
- : guess you could call this 'noise'... but its frequency and power are
- : directly related to the inputs frequency and to the quantization error.
- : I guess it comes down to a debate about definitions...
-
- Actually you are both right.
- SNR and dynamic range are both the same in digital signals i.e. 48dB for
- 8 bit, 96dB for 16 bit.
- They are however different things but closely related.
- Dynamic range is the ratio of the highest discrete voltage over the lowest,
- and signal to noise ratio is an error percentage of noise in the signal.
- Some points about digital audio:
-
- 1) The SNR of the complete system is by no means the SNR of the
- digital signal. In 16 bit samples for example, you will pick up far more
- noise in the analogue circuits, and in the D/A converters than the digital
- signal actually holds.
-
- 2) Both the dynamic range and SNR are related to the bit resolution, and
- _NOT_ the sampling frequency. The hissy sounds that you pick up when
- sampling at low frequencies is not actually noise, but distortion.
-
- 3) The level of aliasing distortion you pick up is related to the
- frequency. Aliasing adds high frequency components into the signal which
- is what makes them sound noisy - these frequencies are not random however
- and are related to the actual data signal.
-